New York detective told how he caught a Russian woman wanted for murder - ForumDaily
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New York Detective told how he caught wanted for murder Russian woman

HermanWeisberg_1Victoria Nasyrova - a resident of Brooklyn, a Russian woman, accused in the United States on 31 counts, and in Russia - in a murder case. Nadezhda Ford was also, at the time of the events, a resident of Brooklyn, the daughter of a woman killed in Russia, frightened by the arrival of the killer in Brooklyn. It was she who turned to private detective Herman Weisberg, who discovered Nasyrova’s criminal background and contacted his colleagues in the New York police.

In an interview with ForumDaily, a private detective from New York talked about how a woman accused of serious crimes in two countries was taken into custody and revealed interesting facts about her own biography.

Reading materials about Herman and about his agency Sage intelligence group, you begin to understand that Mr. Weisberg’s biography is much richer than one could imagine. After 20 years of experience with the NYPD, he founded the agency and was personally involved in solving a long list of cases related to extortion, corruption, drug trafficking - criminal cases of the highest complexity. In the recent past, he has performed work for the State Department and intelligence agencies related to executive protection.

Now managing director Sage Intelligence Group Services Mr. Weisberg oversees investigative work in support of complex lawsuits, corporate security and executive protection on behalf of law firms, large corporations, small businesses and individuals.

Reading the materials about Herman and about his agency Sage Intelligence Group, you begin to understand that the biography of Mr. Weisberg is much richer than you can imagine. Photos from the personal archive

Reading materials about Herman and his agency Sage intelligence groupyou begin to understand that the biography of Mr. Weisberg is much richer than you can imagine. Photos from the personal archive

"This is a crazy story"

After this list, the only question that has arisen for me is: and what, can this person have time for me? Besides the fact that it was quickly found, I was completely fascinated by his ability to have a conversation, charm, respect for the interlocutor, information readiness to help and other positive qualities for communicating with the press, which I can list for a very long time.

— What did you think about Nasyrova’s story at first, before the investigation, and what happened after? How did your ideas about this case change when you became involved with it directly?

- This is a crazy story. Until I checked myself and became convinced that she was really wanted by Interpol...

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I can understand. A lot of people go through my office, ask me for help, and often these people are emotional, telling me about their problems, and sometimes these problems are not exactly as they describe them. I must conduct my own investigation and trust him first.

Listening to Miss Ford, at first I thought that... everything was a little exaggerated. However, when I found out that Nasyrova was actually wanted for murder in Russia, and in principle had no right to be here, I saw the problem in its true form.

— These are different stories: a story in Russia with a murder and a story in America without a murder...

- I I am aware of her American affairs, I know what she is involved in - drug poisoning and much more, but during the investigation I took into account, first of all, the fact that she is wanted by Interpol.

- Do you know why she was in a psychiatric hospital (ForumDaily I told that Nasyrova was transferred from prison to a hospital)?

“I don’t know why she was in a psychiatric hospital, but she could be there for many reasons. I don’t know anything in this sense about Nasyrova specifically, but I am familiar with general practice on these issues and can assume that a person, finding himself in a prison complex Rikers islandmay, for example, talk about suicide. Or try to harm yourself. Or try to harm others. According to this data, the doctor may decide that the person should be sent to a hospital for a while, and may subsequently decide that he can already be returned to prison.

 

- These are your assumptions?

“This is a fairly common situation for people who have never been to prison before. This may be associated both with a suicide attempt and with communication with other people, but this, again, is an assumption.

Seam on the chair

— I was very impressed by the story about the seam on the seat in the car that helped you catch her (I learned from other information sources that first Hermann found out from the seam that it was Chrysler, then that it was black Chrysler, then I found out how many such cars are in Brooklyn - author.)

“The seam was a small part of the investigation. Now I'll show you (turns the screen to me), she has a lot of photos on Facebook, where she is in reflective glasses. Here, in fact, the seam, as part of the image. And if you look at her glasses carefully, you will see the rest.

Photo from Victoria Nasyrova's Facebook page

Photo from Victoria Nasyrova's Facebook page

Of course, I can say that it was a black car, I can tell what brand the car is, a lot of information can be obtained simply by the appearance of the back seat, but the glasses - look - are also a reflection, from which I draw a conclusion about what kind of car it is panel, that here, for example, a window, a hand, a front seat, things are reflected in the glasses - see how much information? Believe me, one stitch would not be enough for the investigation.

Photo from Victoria Nasyrova's Facebook page

Photo from Victoria Nasyrova's Facebook page

— Have there been similar cases in your practice?

— It has never happened, and in general, each case is unique. There are many of them, and they are all different from each other.

And even if you look specifically at the situation of searching for someone who is suspected of murder - a very unusual story. I know this work, I came across it in the police, I came across it here, this is what I know thoroughly - and this is an unusual case.

Facebook - help for a detective

— Do social networks help you in your work?

- Oh yeah. People love to post their photos and talk about themselves. But Victoria's case was a little different. When I finally realized who she was and what kind of person she was, it turned out that this person was completely different from her Facebook image. Here, look (showing photo) - a completely different person in the photo taken during the arrest. Here on Facebook she seems thin, but in reality she is a lady of completely different sizes.

— The court document states that she weighs more than 200 pounds..

- Absolutely right. Therefore, I doubted and called my colleagues at the police when I saw the person I was looking for in the car I was looking for, and everything went to the conclusion that this lady should be Nasyrova - but she was different in appearance. Here, look, in my video are her shoes, and in her photo are the same shoes, the same parka with fur, as in the photo on Facebook. This is exactly what Facebook helped me with, plus what I already talked about - but it looked different, and I doubted it. By the way, the houses in Brooklyn are reflected in her glasses, you can see that too.

Photo from Victoria Nasyrova's Facebook page

Photo from Victoria Nasyrova's Facebook page

Another thing is that many people post their correct photos on Facebook and write a lot of information about themselves, which is good for people like me.

— Do you have a Facebook account?

— I have many fake accounts on Facebook. Well, after all, I read to my friends, and my son, and about football. Well, and work needs, of course.

And I understand why people create accounts, and why, for example, the president tweets, but I myself don’t.

“If a person doesn’t want to be caught, he needs a lot of money.”

- A person who is easy to catch and a person who is difficult to catch - how do they differ in their daily habits and lifestyle?

- If a person does not want to be caught, he needs a lot of money. A big cache because with a credit card people like me will track it.

Whether you're staying in a hotel in New Mexico or fleeing abroad, if we need to know where you are, we have ways.

Large amounts of cash or a huge number of friends who will help you, that's what you need.

Not everyone can be tracked down, not everyone. But again, social networks. For example, I see that someone loves his mother very much. And I can assume that on Mother's Day he will come to her. If you are still connected with some people, then you are easy to catch. But there are people who are not connected with anyone. Lone wolves. They are hard to catch. Here you are in Brooklyn with whom you live?

- With husband.

“So both you and your husband will have to hide.” But in our age of technological gadgets, where people tweet about their lives every 2 minutes, check in at their favorite restaurants, they are easy to find. For example, even Victoria.

On her Facebook page there is information about restaurants, coffee shops and pizzerias she loved. In one, she even checked-in. It also quickly becomes clear that she has often been to several Mexican places. Coney Island av., here are the house numbers.

For example, if I know that you love this or that cafe, I, in theory, can always watch over you there. Social networks make my work quite simple.

— I read your biography on the Internet, it is quite impressive, now I understand where filmmakers get their stories from.

— Buy ​​tickets. (Laughs.)

— Tell me, how often do representatives of the Russian community turn to you for help?

— My services are quite expensive, firstly, and secondly, I work directly with lawyers, advocates, and these can be Russians. These can be any people with a lot of money.

— In the Russian community there can be people with big money.

- I know! And among Russian lawyers, by the way, there are also very smart people, I worked with them.

— What should I know about your work in general and in detail?

— Private investigations, I must say, help not even you, but your lawyer, first of all. There are different cases, it happens when you need to defend your honor in court, to get to the bottom of the truth, and I am part of the law here.

You should not write down my phone number to hire me and track someone, because then I will answer you: first talk to your lawyer.

In our work, it is important not only to be able to solve problems, but also to be able to say in time that a given problem, for example, is unsolvable. I really love my job, it gives me a lot of communication with interesting people, with great people. This is the best job in the world. It consists partly of surveillance, capture, detention; I personally don't do them because we have to cooperate with the police department; In addition, we conduct a lot of interviews, help in making conflict conclusions, solving problems, long-term investigations for lawyers, we also do defensive work. If you sold a gun and want the protection of a policeman, this is not our case; We firmly stand in defense of the law, and sometimes it happens that the person we are dealing with does not deserve prison at all, and then we try to restore justice. We do work for people and I love it. We have to talk, including with witnesses, and often these are conversations at 2 am, because these people, for example, work on garbage trucks - this is our job, not the job of a lawyer.

“I prefer to use my brains”

— Portrait of a detective in the cinema; How do you match it? Do you know, for example, martial arts?

“I used them sometimes, but don’t tell anyone.” (Laughs.) In fact, it does not matter. I prefer to use my brains, it helps in the work more than a gun or fists. This work is more about respecting people, communicating with people.

— Describe a hypothetical case of turning to a private detective as the only way out for a person.

“I’m ready to repeat it again:

Do not pay money and do not hire a private detective if the lawyer will not be able to use the information that he obtains.

Or if this information can ultimately harm you. Or if you are getting a divorce, a lawyer can solve this problem without our help. I'm not investigating where your wife's lover is. Contact me if you need serious legal protection, do not spend tons of money on cases that a lawyer can solve himself, and on those investigations that will not help in court. Talk to a lawyer first, hear what he tells you.

This is what I can say about the only way out. Do not hire me when you have other options.

— And yet, people sometimes approach you with bad intentions?

— I understand those people (outside the case with Nasyrova) who come and ask me for something that I don’t do, under the influence of emotions and stress. In such cases, I always explain: look, this, this, and this can be done by a lawyer, but what you are asking me for, for example, is completely illegal - and if you start moving in this direction, you will be to blame. Any information obtained illegally - wiretapping, computer hacking... However, the fact that this will not help is usually clarified at the stage of conversation with a lawyer.

In the U.S. crime Editor's Choice Victoria Nasyrova
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